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#173421 - 04/30/02 05:09 PM To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
hrh999 Offline
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Hi AJ

I very often use the button "To End" to terminate the arranger part after a song.
Over time using the SD1 I realize more and more styles, whose voices don't stop at the same time. A good example is
SlowRock_2, arranger C: the drums / bass stop precisely at the first beat of the next measure, 1 measure later the human-like voices stop, again 1 measure later the strings stop. Can you kindly tell me, whether this is intended or not, or whether my SD1 has a bug? For some styles I'd see a kind of creativity, if all voices stopped a bit later than the drums / bass, provided they all would stop together at the same time. The above example however sounds, as if the conductor had no control on part of the musicians. BTW this effect is since the release 1.0a and has never changed. It is just that I recently started to use different styles and suddenly it disturbs in some cases really.

For my personal taste I'd prefer in a future release, that the entire accompaniment stopped at the same time.

Brgds and thanks for your continous support in this forum

Hansruedi

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#173422 - 04/30/02 07:40 PM Re: To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
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hans ........you should definately upgrade the OS to 3.0b . upgrade than post !
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#173423 - 05/01/02 04:58 AM Re: To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
hrh999 Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
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Loc: 8302 Kloten, Switzerland
Hi Dan

I did already upgrade to 3.0b! However in all releases since 1.0a I never read about this effect and that it should have been corrected. Should this be the case with 3.0b?

Rgds Hansruedi

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#173424 - 05/01/02 08:05 PM Re: To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
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hrh999,
Let me look more into this for this is a new one.
Thanks,
AJ
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#173425 - 05/02/02 10:14 AM Re: To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
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hrh999
Some answers for you.

I've just completed looking at the TO END feature on ALL styles. This is not an OS issue but rather within the styles. The arranger parts (DRUMS, BASS CHD1-5) are purposely programmed as they are so (using your example above) when you hear the INCAPA-Human sound, that is correct. However the issue on the other extended sound is from the LOWERS (which are the voices you manually play with your left hand while controlling the Arranger). Since there is an extra measure, (which is used to fade out from the arranger components and prevent abrupt choppy endings), if you press a chord hard, these LOWER notes are usually sustained 'till the last measure. The TO END uses whatever voices are currently being used within the ARRANGER to end the style(hence the difference when you press TO END after ARR A. vers ARR B. etc).

To resolve this;
* press both LOWER buttons (to mute the LOWER parts) immidiately you've pressed the TO END (or slightly before).
OR
* Use different sounds that do not have a long sustain period (e.g electric piano) for your LOWERS voices.

Hope this helps.

AJ



[This message has been edited by Ketron_AJ (edited 05-02-2002).]
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#173426 - 05/05/02 10:42 AM Re: To Ketron_AJ: SD1 "To End" doesn't stop the whole "orchestra"
hrh999 Offline
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Registered: 12/11/01
Posts: 73
Loc: 8302 Kloten, Switzerland
Dear AJ

Thanks for your detailed explanation. I'm happy to hear that it isn't a bug, however
it is a bit hard to understand the intention
behind as you stated: ... which is used to fade out from the arranger components and prevent abrupt choppy endings...
Be it as it is!

Best regards
Hansruedi

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